"Yeah it was nice to be able to have a sort of small underground limited edition release to get you started. I don't like the idea of getting chucked straight into the limelight and having to prove yourself straight away. I like the idea of slow development and Deceptive is really good for that, " says Rick.

So is there a particular way you want the band to be perceived?

"We've sort of been about motivation, " begins Steve. "It's a small town where we're from and everyone seems content in doing what they're doing. We've always known what we wanted to do."

Rick explains his own thoughts. "Before, I just looked at my friends and pretty much all of them had a dream of something that they always wanted to do. These days especially, people are scared to go for what they want to do and go for the safe option. At the end of the day in wasn't necessarily you can do it if you try hard enough. We've been knocked back so many times in the past. You know people have said we're never going to get anywhere. That would have put off a lot of people but the whole idea of ours was just to say it's "all about determination". That's why we called the mini album 'Stamina'. The whole vibe behind all the lyrics is real determination, whatever anyone tells you and how much you get put down at the end of the day you have to have the confidence to do what you want to do and not what society tells you to do."

I saw a local Bedford band the other day who have been sponsored by Matlows the people who make the Loveheart sweets. Would you consider sponsorship at all?

"It would have to get pretty desperate. We played with a band called 'Morning After' and Alka Seltzer sponsored them. If you do it in the right way, It can be a bit too cocky. Compromising your band for something or someone else is too much I suppose," says Rick. >>